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  • chanduv23
    07-04 08:50 AM
    Chanduv thanks for your efforts. A correction: retrogression started in fall of 2004

    I picked this from another post here in IV. Maybe we must have a sticky template so that everyone uses that template.





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  • vdlrao
    07-21 05:30 PM
    The Family visas spill over is something I couldnt understand. They are retrogressed by > 10 years for many categories. Is that conflicting with spill over? Why would there be spill over with such backlog?

    I havent researched FB category , so apologize if its silly question

    This is due to the limit of 7% per country of available Family Based Visas and 2% for dependent areas.





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  • psgprasad
    07-03 04:34 PM
    Requesting IV core to setup webfax and IV action items to call senators and congressmen on the mid month retrogression issue and bad process followed by USCIS and DOS

    The response by congresswoman Rep. Lofgren should be added in the webfax and our phone calls.





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  • spdy_mn
    06-27 01:08 PM
    Guys, we will know the exact truth in 3 weeks. Until then we have to do what we can do and not worry about things that are not in our control.

    I know it is easy to say and tough to do but what other option do we have ??



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  • unseenguy
    08-18 06:00 PM
    I do not know why this issue is more important for people to discuss. Just because Mr Khan is asked to be a common man? He is not a world famous actor. He is a famous actor to a very very small minority Indian Community in USA. Why should USA give VIP treatment to any star actor from any country of the world? If he was an official ambassador/senior diplomat/Minister, it us understandable. He is simply coming to USA to make money. He will still come again to USA to make money even if he is strip searched again and questioned for more than 66 minutes. Indian government seems to have crossed the line by complaining. This VIP culture that is so prevalent in India needs to change.
    If Indian government really wants to complain, why are they not complaining against the long wait periods for H1B stamping in India. Ordinary Indian citizens going to India for stamping sometimes have to wait several months in the name of security checks. This takes a toll on their life and job in USA. There are several other issues Indian Citizens face in USA. If Indian government has chosen to interfere with the internal matter (in this case national security) of USA, why is it keeping quiet on other matter of importance to its citizens? Indian government needs to stick to its policies and not bend its rules for VIPs.

    As someone said, if his intention was to publicize his new movie and make more money from his share of profit, he may have succeeded.

    I agree with some points here and I dont with others:

    First of all, whether a person was traveling in official capacity or not was he profiled? Because of his name , skin or status? Whatever it is.

    Second, if we give same treatment to brad pitt or tom cruise, would it be acceptable to americans and you too. Would it be a process or would you then dismiss it as nonsense and inefficiency of Indian admin? How you see things in perspective is also important.

    Thirdly, Shahrukh, though not an official and is here making money, is a high profile person. His case and this incident , embodies the unreasonable and insensitive treatment many many commoners get by hands of inefficient US administration.

    You pointed out right, hundreds and thousands are facing security delays, stamping issues, issues at POE etc. Thats what this incident highlights.

    If a high profile person from India, Shahrukh, faces so many problems, then people can imagine the troubles of the commoners.

    I would see this as a "representative" case for many Indians and highlighting it would give some negative publicity to CBP and restore some "common sense" in general.





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  • sumagiri
    07-23 11:25 AM
    I am estimating around 75K EB2 AOS approvals this year. Please check my analysis here. The analysis is based on statistics, testimonies, and spill over from FB to EB as estimated by Ron Gother. The analysis was couple of months old. I believe it still stands.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422

    Apart from total number of EB2 visas this year, one thing that is crucial here is how many visas are already used up. And thus how many visas are left for this year.

    In the USCIS testimony, it was stated that they already used up 65% of the "target" in 5 months. Assuming, they used up atleast 30% more in next 5 months, there is only 5% to 10% of visas left over from their "target" number of visas. Did their "target" included spill over? No one knows. Knowing that will put us in better position to estimate the PD progress.

    Though the EB2 moved until June 2006, I am hoping that most of the people before 2005 March should get approved. In that case, even if it retrogresses, it will fall back to March 2005. Once we reach March 2005, we have all statistics from DOL. So, would be easier to estimate.



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  • deepakjain
    05-29 11:04 AM
    One of my friends came to US in 2002 applied for GC with PD of 2005 under EB3....looking at the situation he went back to India starting of Feb 2007...came back to US as Senior Project Manager [Virtual designation] he still does a developer work....applied for GC under EB1 in Aug 2008.....March 2009 he has got his GC.....

    Yenjay Madi....I know of 7 cases who were with me 3 years back and now they have GC...

    with current new fraud mantra EB1 will never spill over to EB2....soon EB1 for desis will have priority dates......





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  • sachug22
    09-17 10:57 AM
    Do you have any data to back your claim? I beleive there are more EB2 China numbers than India. I remember seeing some data a while back where Indian EB2 & Eb3 ratio was close to 50% where as China it was 80% EB2 to 20% EB3. Which makes me think there are more EB2 china than india.

    Read this quote from Ron Gotcher, assuming that he is getting the data from CIS sources for EB2 ratio between India/China is 2.5 : 1

    Immigration Information Discussion Forum - View Single Post - Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/33180-post56.html)



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  • belmontboy
    08-17 05:07 PM
    True greatness is shown by humility, not pride.

    Al Gore, Kalam, etc are great personalities.
    SRK nah!!

    Thousands of South Asians have gone through same treatment.
    Growup SRK, don't be such a baby :D.

    I have never watched his movies, and i got one more reason not to watch "My name is Khan".





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  • go_gc_way
    08-16 01:16 PM
    This is racial profiling no doubt, but for good reason after what happened on 9/11. This is an unfortunate aftermath of 9/11 and IMHO a welcome one. If it wasnt for this kind of security we would have had many more 9/11ish incidents. I am glad this is a "part of life" now, otherwise I am not have a life. When you ask "When was the last time.. a US diplomat or US socialite was frisked and detained for 2 hrs in indian airports?", that is a big problem with the state of security in India. Not just US diplomat or US socialite even our own Indian ministers and celebrities dont get frisked or detained. You feel that is right when you hear about so many scandals of the underworld-bollywood nexus or politician-mafia nexus ? Forget about the nexus, its not right even if there was no connection with mafia. Rules should apply the same to everyone.

    The balls you need to grow should be to ask politicians and celebrities to go through security like everyone else back home in India.


    May be this is not the forum , but as I saw this I was unable to stop my self from writing here...

    With respect to every one, SRK is no comparision to Dr. Abdul Kalam

    When I think of Dr. Abdul Kalam , all that comes to my mind is the unselfish life that he has dedicated to India. We all know , he is Great Scientist, Great Intellectual, Social Worker and a Great Indian. He is unmarried and still serving society after ex Presidency India..

    I would not be worried of what happend to SRK..SRK is no comparision, rest is typical politics.



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  • voldemar
    03-27 10:22 AM
    My Q' was, if it becomes effective on 27th April, will USCIS reject all pending cases ?It depends on wording in final memo. Nobody knows what is there. The only text we know is that was published for comments. There could be changes after comments period. Without changes all pending sub cases (without approved I-140) will be denied.
    Edit: It seems that Murthy doesn't agree with me :). Let's see.





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  • snathan
    01-13 06:12 PM
    Interesting. I think there would probably be around maybe half a million or so H1Bs currently in the US, probably more , working in the IT industry. Many if not most would work for these consulting companies; ranging from the large one's like Accenture or TCS to the grocery store offices in NJ. All of them have the potential to be affected if this memo is strictly enforced.

    While I would be glad if all the shady consultancy firms that have wrecked the H1B program to be put out of business; there might be serious disruptions in the IT industry if hundreds of thousands of workers are going to be forced out; even if in a phased manner; i.e. letting folks stay till their current visas expire.

    Consulting companies are just the tip of the ice burg. They should really target infy, wipro, TCS like companies. They are the one truly exploiting the sytem to the fullest. They do not sponsor GC, do not pay the good salary or any benefit to the employee. I also dont see the share holders are rewared. God knows where all the profits are going. (which holes are getting filled)?



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  • reddy77
    09-23 02:10 PM
    Yes, mine was approved a month back without any hassles and bought the home ....

    Has anybody really tried to get a mortgage recently? I have been denied by 8 lenders so far simply because I don't have a green card. Most lenders have tightened their underwriting guidelines. They will give mortgages only to U.S.Citizens or somebody who is a permanent resident aka having a green card. There are very very few lenders who will give mortgages to somebody on a visa and the rates may not be very favorable.





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  • cableman
    08-30 10:53 AM
    I would recommend you to search online such as http://www.monster.ca and apply for some positions. This is the only reliable way to test the Canadian job market. If you get positive responses, it tells you that your skill set is indeed in demand. If not, you should think twice before moving. Since Canada and US are next to each other, you can probably be able to go for interviews and to secure a job before moving. This way, you are sure that you will have a job when you move.

    One reminder. Don't expect their jobs can pay you as good as what you are getting in US. The upside is the living standard is relatively lower in Canada especially compared to big cities like NYC and San Francisco. Also, you will have more vacations and no more worry of GC retrogression.


    I did the PR Canadian immi. myself and got the approval. The process is straightforward . However, I hesitate to go there . From what I heard is diffucult to get IT job.



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  • indiancitizen77
    08-27 11:44 PM
    Our frustration with the US legal immigration and retrogression seems endless. My wife and I are considering immigration prospects to Canada. Can somebody please suggest good responsive lawfirms that could handle a Canadian PR application? We would also appreciate some insight on Canadian immigration prospects for physicians. Thanks





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  • qvadis
    02-13 07:23 PM
    No. You are wrong..
    202 (e)(3) will not applicable, because of (a)(5).

    The third point excempts that ..

    (3) 3/ except as provided in subsection (a)(5), the proportion of the visa numbers made available under each of paragraphs (1) through (5) of section 203(b) is equal to the ratio of the total number of visas made available under the respective paragraph to the total number of visas made available under section 203(b).

    202(a)(5) was added by AC21!! That's exactly the change that allowed USCIS to give additional visas to over-subscribed countries.



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  • sk2006
    08-15 07:14 PM
    I completely agree with you that we should never forget our roots or our motherland. India is far better than US when it comes to family values and many other things. However, this story has nothing to do about standing up for our own country/motherland. Every person who has a common name with terrorist names has had troubles at POE since 9/11. So who cares if he is SRK or anyone for that matter. When Colin Powell was the chief of security under Bush administration he had to go through airport security just like any other common person. The TSA here in US treats everyone the same. Do you think ministers or celebrities in India follow any security procedures ? Every now and then you hear of ministers and celebrities involved in smuggling scandals.
    There are good and bad things about every nation. IMHO, security procedures in US are the far better than India and apply the same way to everyone unlike in India. If you are so concerned about standing up for your motherland, what are you doing in the US ? Should I be calling you a traitor ? My point is, this case of SRK has nothing to do with loyality to motherland or racism. It is an unfortunate aftermath of 9/11 and we all know its been happening at POE.

    I think this is a very good post.
    To add to this:
    This incident has nothing to do with India. It just happened that SRK was from India.
    After 9/11 we all know security measures are tight and rightly so.

    For them it does not matter if it is
    1. SR Khan who works in movies or
    2. XYZ Khan who is a computer programmer or a cab driver.

    If the name flashes in the computers they do the required checks.

    Do you feel people with Muslim sounding names are targeted more?
    No wonder, it is likely. DO NOT Blame USA TSA for that. Blame Osama Bin Laden for putting innocent Muslims through this.





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  • ujjwal_p
    10-15 05:38 PM
    If spillover works, logic is simple. Pending applications ~290K. Quot available ~140k
    So, in just two years, every category should be current. Lets not scratch our heads.

    Please work out the data versus pending/quota/spillover. Do VISA DATES ENGINEERING. And figure out the visa dates process/workflow and put in front of DOS/USCIS to adopt. Or lobby to adopt. or rally to adopt.

    Otherwise our math will always be different from DOS/USCIS math on visa dates ;)

    Easy boss. It aint that simple. You think nobody's going to be awarded gc's in the next year from EB1 and EB2 ROW? Wow. You not only need spillover but also need really low demand from EB1 and EB2 ROW through next Oct. If economy start picking up we'll be piling up on the backlog again and back to twiddling our thumbs waiting for visa bulletin every month. The only way this can be solved is through more visas or through visa recapture. If either of them doesn't happen, we are pretty much guaranteed not seeing "current" for a good 5-10 years, assuming the economy starts recovering and adding more jobs which seems like it has slowly begun. Not that simple.





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  • bfadlia
    02-16 02:57 PM
    I still fail to see how country caps on Employment Based immigration serve the purpose of diversity. Look, people from India/China with H1B visas and pending AOS applications are already here, right? They are here and will be here regardless of whether they get GCs now or after 10 years. Many of them bought houses, have families, American born kids. How making them wait for years is gonna serve the purpose of diversity? You think if an Indian guy will be using AC21/EAD for years, going to finger printing every year, going through secondary security check on airports, in time he is gonna evolve into something less Indian? It's gonna be the same people but with different documents in their pockets.

    For diversity purposes there is lottery, and the purpose of that lottery is exactly that - the diversity. Also, if the government wants diversity, they should have immigration program like Canada has. Where people are issued permanent residency BEFORE coming to the country and spending years working for that country.


    bestia, the people here keep saying "i don't see the reasoning in x, then x must be wrong and should change"
    u believe US intended diversity in DV lottery only and by mistake put it in DV, FB and EB.. you are entitled to your opinion, but good luck getting someone to take u seriosly with this argument
    again..i only mentioned race when people kept saying we (certainly their race) are better and brighter, outside correcting that context i would never have discussed it this way.
    peace.. have a soccer game now.. c u later





    angelfire76
    05-28 10:50 PM
    When some of us raised the issue of project managers from Indian IT companies applying under EB1 and using up those visas which would trickle over to EB2 and EB3, we were scoffed at. Some even questioned as to why these people cannot apply under "Multi-national executive" category, as they are "Multi-national" managers.
    These guys misrepresent the number of people reporting to them (same managers in the same portfolio uses the same number of people to show in the application as reporting to them. This is true "reuse"), also "reuse" the portfolio value (how can 3-4 managers from the same client account be responsible for x million dollar business) and crooked company attorneys make up a stellar resume and case to file for them. The attorney pay comes from the employee's pocket.
    Otherwise how would you explain the sudden rise in EB1 filings and a quota which never used to be over in previous years suddenly has cut-off dates.
    If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:





    rahulpaper
    06-28 07:07 PM
    Yes it does not say interim memo....the underlying point was that the directive comes from DOS once all these numbers are used up by approved applications and not "filed applications"

    The mid month retrogression can happen...not based on number of filed applications but based on number of approved applications....and if they have enough applications (preadjudicated) sitting for numbers to become available...the system should process all of them in one day...and you know what will happen then............


    http://www.imminfo.com/resources/cis-sop-aos/1-16.html

    According to this manual..visa availability is determined by Visa bulletin ALONE..no where it mentions to look for an interin memo from INS..



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